So Deadbeats Push the Meme Christmas is Sun Worship?

There has been a meme going around on YouTube and in some political circles that Christmas is about the movement of the Sun. The thing is, memes aren’t real. At least not always. While that is true, that hasn’t stopped a seemingly unrelated group of “researchers,” “thought leaders,” “producers” and speakers from spreading the meme that the birth of Jesus Christ is really just an allegory for the Sun.

Thus, Jesus is relegated to an allegory.

Unsavory self-appointed internet leaders meme “Christ is the Sun” and unfortunately some people believe it.

The Zeitgeist series of movies was pretty big. They were headed by a man named Peter Joseph who has all but faded away. The first Zeitgeist movie, entitled just “Zeitgeist” which is still available on YouTube was a break through for the “Christ is the Sun” meme. Plenty of others push it though. There is Jordan Maxwell with his slug-like visage. Then we have Mark Passio, the “reformed Satanist.” There is also Michael Tsarion who has a seemingly never ending stack of tall tales.

For all the materials the keepers of the Christ/Sun meme put out, they always tell the same simplistic story. The story is that after the Winter Solstice which is usually on December 21, the Sun hangs low and motionless for three days and on December the 25th is born and/or rises from where it hung on the horizon for the three days.

The birth of Jesus the Christ is written about in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. There are 66 books in the Bible. Mine has 664 pages. The aforementioned keepers of the “Christ is the Sun” meme always talk about Astrotheology and how current religions were derived from the study of the heavens. Peter Joseph of Zeitgeist says that the ancients “personified them(the Sun and Stars) with elaborate myths.” That maybe true but, none of the memers of the “Christ is the Sun” meme can ever say much more than the Bible is an Astrotheological allegory. How come there are never any Astrotheological allegories explained about the other 99.9999% plus of the Bible.

The “Christ is the Sun” memers never put out any books or hardly any other material to prove their point or expand on their theology. Why is December 21st-25th not Easter Astrotheologically? Holy Thursday through Easter Sunday is four days and the Bible tells us Christ was dead for 3, rising on the third. As such what is Easter Sunday represent Astrotheologically?

In the Bible, The Resurrection(Easter) took place on the weekend of the Passover. The Sun surely passed over head on that Passover and the First Easter. The problem for Astrotheologists is they cannot put together a cogent narrative of the “allegory” they claim is the ~664 paged Bible, let alone an accurate one of the Biblical account of Christmas or Easter. They never will. Instead, the memers of the meme use slight of hand and sophistry to convince the undiscerning.

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  1. “As such what is Easter Sunday represent Astrotheologically?”

    If you want the answer to this just look at the math.

    Easter was traditionally a fertility holiday.

    Any baby conceived on Easter would be born 9 months later, the same time from late March to late December.

    Belief in reincarnation would align the death with the conception and thus the rebirth.

    For the record I don’t believe in astrotheology but I do believe the Catholic Church was influenced by it.

    And not to sound sexist but while “very smart men” will try to logically explain it, literally any woman who has ever tried to get pregnant would know a baby conceived on Easter would be born around Christmas.

    It’s just that blatantly obvious.

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    1. I too believe the Catholic Church was influenced by it as a sort of Roman Hybriding.
      My point was to try and dispel the “Jesus is the Sun meme.” I’m not sure but, I think you’re conflating things. While I see your point about fertility, I don’t think Easter has anything to do with the fertility of the Sun per se. The solar “death and rebirth” really happens from 12/21 to 12/25. Easter would be around the first Solstice or the Solstice of the ascending Sun.
      I am not sure when Christ Jesus was born but there are two leads I know of that give us a better idea if not an approximate answer. I know Mary’s sister was pregnant with John the Baptist and he kicked in his mother’s womb when Mary came to see his mother. There is an account of that in Luke. Mary was pregnant then too.
      The second clue has to do with the environment and practices of the shepherds in the fields at the time Christ Jesus was born.

      The biggest thing with Easter as far as I can tell has to do with the Last Supper. I don’t think it can be chalked up to coincidence that Christ Jesus’s Covenant was made on the Passover. As such, it then supersedes The Passover and the Covenant made with Moses for the Tribes of Israel. I observe the bread and wine marking the night he was betrayed, “do this in memory of me.”
      Romanism has Easter but, fertility is not resurrection. Furthermore, rising from the dead is not being born again. That is to say, as far as I know, Memorializing the Last Supper is the important thing.

      It seems there were Lunar, Stellar, and Solar Cults. I don’t see how they matter except for as ways to trip people up. At the same time though, there is a verse in the Bible, about at least the night sky being as various signs. That being said, I don’t see any convincing allegories that match up with any scripture for any real duration. It’s cherry picked and with holes in the narrative. The other thing is Solar Theology, for whatever it’s really worth is weaponized against Christianity. It’s not presented for any other reason. The Romans weaponized it too but, at the same time, by them, the Scripture and Word spread over the whole world. In Hoc Signos Vinces happened and it seems like the statue in Nebuchanezzar’s dream is still falling apart.

      I’ll get the other comment next time.

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      1. “The Romans weaponized it too but, at the same time, by them, the Scripture and Word spread over the whole world.”

        This is absolutely true and something I’m starting to realize more and more of. No matter what I think of them or others being wrong about things, I know that their actions led to me being able to read the Gospel today.

        To me, the resurrection happening on Easter is real, a documented historical event. Christmas as the birth of Christ is more negotiable. It’s set to match the birthday of the “unconquered sun” and the esoteric astrological earth-based patterns of time.

        Fertility is definitely a part of that since it ties into the cyclical nature of life and death in the world. The actual physical resurrection of Christ is different from the mythological resurrections because it only happened once. In paganism, the resurrections repeated at the same time each year because they were the fates of immortal beings.

        Here’s probably the best example – the Greek Persephone, who spent half of her time with Hades and the other half with her mother, is associated with springtime Easter-type festivals. In her story it isn’t as explicit that she “returned to life” but she did leave Hades.

        If you look at an older version of this story’s symbolism, you find the Sumerian god Dumuzid. Same thing, split between life and the underworld, except he was explicitly said to have died during that time to take the place of his wife (he sat on her throne and celebrated instead of mourning her when she died in the underworld so when she had to pick someone to take her place she picked him) so the oldest recorded version of that Easter spring festival was a cyclical resurrection.

        And I agree that it’s not entirely important except to understand our history because when we see that repeated it’s almost a big flashing sign to pay attention that something might not be as it seems.

        This is a really long comment but among the many reasons I dislike Mark Passio, one is that he blocks comments on his videos so I like to take the time to counter what he’s spreading when I get the chance.

        Except he spreads Egyptian stuff which is an entirely different heritage so that’s even worse to me!

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  2. And further to this the word “Easter” originates from “Eostre” which derives from “Eos,” a Greek name for the dawn goddess.

    In that, she is the sister of the sun god Helios rather than his mother but astrotheologists will abstract this to the “divine feminine” and the actual mother of the Greek sun god is Theia, whose name can be considered a feminine form of “theos” or god.

    Again I don’t believe this is the literal truth but I do have a pagan gentile background and having the actual knowledge is better if you want to truly be able to dismiss it.

    The problem with people like Mark Passio is that he can see how the Roman Catholic Church was influenced but he believes they were actually right.

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